Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri....

[Carlos Pesce]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Carlos Pesce at 28 July 2000 05:07:15:
Hi Dietter, Mogens and to all!
Ive tested Yace22 (both latest versions) in Winboard plus, Winboard 4.03 and Winboard 4.07 and in all the same mysterious problem: Ive edited and analized 23 positions with yace in analisys mode, in all yace works fine except in this position:
4KBkr/7p/6PP/4P3/8/3P1p2/8/8 w - - 0 1 (maybe a diabolic position..
Here is the winnboard.debug and Yace.log from another position:
WinBoard Plus 4.0.7 + Yace
Reset(1): gameMode 0
GameEnds(0, (null), 2)
StartChildProcess (dir="c:\Winboard\Yaceprueba") Yace
550 >first : xboard
550 >first : new
random
550 >first : level 0 5 0
550 >first : post
550 >first : hard
660

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 28 July 2000 06:21:05:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Carlos Pesce at 28 July 2000 05:07:15:
[snip]

white ( 1): analyze
usetime = 10.43, mintime = 5.21 maxtime = 52.15 tl 298.00 ml 40
1 240 0 1 Kg3f4 [540]
1 240 0 16 Kg3f4 [540]
2 243 0 18 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 [540]
2 243 0 75 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 [540]
3 245 0 107 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 [540]
3 245 0 397 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 [540]
4 243 1 467 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 Kg1f1 [540]
4 243 7 1386 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 Kg1f1 [540]
5 243 9 1816 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 Kg1f1 Ke4e5 [540]
5 243 16 5403 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 Kg1f1 Ke4e5 [540]
6 240 19 7596 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e4 Kg1h2 Nd3f4 Kh2g3 [540]
6 242 20 7620 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f4 Kg1h1 Nd3f2+ Kh1h2 Nf2e4 [540]
6 242 23 9576 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f4 Kg1h1 Nd3f2+ Kh1h2 Nf2e4 [540]
6 242 40 20359 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f4 Kg1h1 Nd3f2+ Kh1h2 Nf2e4 [540]
7 243 49 27274 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f3 Kg1h1 Nd3e5 Kh1h2 Kf3f4 [540]
7 243 82 55490 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f3 Kg1h1 Nd3e5 Kh1h2 Kf3f4 [540]
8 241 106 79221 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Kg3f4 Kg1h2H Nd3f2H Kh2g1H Nf2e4H Kg1f1H Kf4f5H [540]
8 241 172 142925 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Kg3f4 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Nf2e4 Kg1f1 Kf4f5 [540]
stat01: 211 180354 9 15 16
9 242 227 195391 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f4 Kh2g1 Kf3e4 Kg1h2 Nf4e6 [540]
9 243 254 217570 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e3 Kg1h2 Nd3e5 Kh2g1 Ke3e4 Kg1h2 Ne1f3+H Kh2g3H [540]
9 243 256 219254 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e3 Kg1h2 Nd3e5 Kh2g1 Ke3e4 Kg1f1 Ne5d3 [540]
9 243 408 369224 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4e3 Kg1h2 Nd3e5 Kh2g1 Ke3e4 Kg1f1 Ne5d3 [540]
stat01: 418 376705 10 15 16
10 242 576 520330 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Kf3e3 Kg1h2 Nf2e4 Kh2g1 [540]
stat01: 620 555994 10 14 16
stat01: 824 760485 10 8 16
10 242 1019 955513 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Kf3e3 Kg1h2 Nf2e4 Kh2g1 [540]
stat01: 1022 957843 11 15 16
stat01: 1226 1131723 11 15 16
11 243 1388 1276869 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Kf3e3 Kg1h2 Ke3f4 Kh2g1 Nf2d3 [540]
stat01: 1441 1327300 11 14 16
stat01: 1639 1511550 11 12 16
stat01: 1838 1708280 11 9 16
stat01: 2039 1906152 11 6 16
stat01: 2244 2104782 11 1 16
11 243 2375 2243127 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Kf3e3 Kg1h2 Ke3f4 Kh2g1 Nf2d3 [540]
stat01: 2450 2304803 12 15 16
stat01: 2664 2480491 12 15 16
stat01: 2861 2654949 12 15 16
stat01: 3057 2840766 12 15 16
stat01: 3272 3038309 12 15 16
12 241 3455 3217982 Kg3f4 Kf1g1 Kf4f3 Kg1h2 Nd3f2 Kh2g1 Kf3e3 Kg1h2 Ke3f4 Kh2g1 Nf2d3 Kg1h2 [540]
stat01: 3464 3224216 12 14 16
stat01: 3670 3422132 12 14 16
stat01: 3875 3620458 12 14 16
12 29983 3938 3679593 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3h2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Nh2g4H Kh1g1H Ne1f3+H Kg1f1H Ng4e3+H [540]
12 241 3954 3696621 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Kg3f4 Kh1g1 Kf4e4 [540]
stat01: 4082 3819058 12 12 16
stat01: 4284 4030085 12 12 16
stat01: 4484 4230310 12 10 16
stat01: 4686 4431036 12 9 16
stat01: 4899 4631989 12 6 16
stat01: 5097 4833203 12 5 16
stat01: 5304 5022804 12 2 16
stat01: 5504 5224346 12 1 16
stat01: 5703 5426264 12 1 16
12 241 5854 5583372 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Kg3f4 Kh1g1 Kf4e4 [540]
13 29983 5855 5583662 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Nd2e4 Kh1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Ne4d2+ [540]
stat01: 5907 5640707 13 15 16
stat01: 6117 5868028 13 15 16
stat01: 6316 6096377 13 15 16
stat01: 6518 6326401 13 15 16
stat01: 6725 6532697 13 15 16
stat01: 6934 6726811 13 15 16
stat01: 7127 6920964 13 15 16
stat01: 7330 7139870 13 15 16
stat01: 7536 7359369 13 15 16
13 29983 7553 7371232 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Nd2e4 Kh1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Ne4d2+ [540]
stat01: 7743 7579176 13 14 16
stat01: 7946 7799707 13 14 16
stat01: 8157 7995990 13 14 16
stat01: 8350 8204452 13 14 16
stat01: 8555 8400988 13 14 16
stat01: 8767 8597340 13 14 16
stat01: 8961 8781086 13 12 16
13 29983 9095 8891461 Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Nd2e4 Kh1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1 Ne4d2+ [540]
8891461 90.95 29983 13u.: Kg3g4 Kf1g1 Kg4h3 Kg1f1 Kh3g3 Kf1g1 Ne1f3+ Kg1f1
Nf3d2+ Kf1g1 Nd3e1 Kg1h1 Nd2e4 Kh1g1 Ne1f3+
Kg1f1 Ne4d2+ [540]
8891461 Nodes, 2.37% Leavenodes, 97757 Nodes/sec
2505142 eval, 100.00% score, 67211442 genmoves, 0.27% captures le 56/130
ext: pawn 0, rcp 13678, chk 724464, repchk 6613, null 0, prune 0
htable: 4330554 store, 330525 rejected, 8536864 probe, 5151079 found
entries 1333325 age 12 rate 166665 clock 137801 renew 0 rehash 2
egtb probes 764364, found 585094
white ( 1): quit
And now:
WinBoard Plus 4.0.7 + Yace
Reset(1): gameMode 0
GameEnds(0, (null), 2)
StartChildProcess (dir="c:\Winboard\Yaceprueba") Yace
490 >first : xboard
490 >first : new
random
490 >first : level 0 5 0
490 >first : post
490 >first : hard
600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 660 660 1200 1260 1260 2250 2300 2520 2520 2520 2520 37730 >first : force
37730 >first : edit
37730 >first : #
37730 >first : Ke8
37730 >first : Bf8
37730 >first : Pg6
37730 >first : Ph6
37730 >first : Pe5
37730 >first : Pd3
37730 >first : c
37730 >first : Kg8
37730 >first : Rh8
37730 >first : Ph7
37730 >first : Pf3
37730 >first : .
38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 38110 47510 >first : analyze
47510 47560 47560 47560 47560 47560 47560 47560 47560 47620 47620 47620 47620 47620 47670 47670 47730 47730 47730 47780 47840 47950 47950 49590 >first : .
Fatal Error: Error: first chess program (Yace) exited unexpectedly
GameEnds(0, (null), 2)
57560 >first : quit
Fatal Error: Error writing to first chess program:
Ha terminado la canalización.
And Yace.log:
hash size wanted 16000000
entries 1333333 size 15999996 size_wanted 16000000 ok 1
rmove = 3
rscore = -600/100
5-men endgame table bases found
white ( 1): xboard
xboard_mode is On
white ( 1): new
white ( 1): random
white ( 1): level 0 5 0
white: pt 300.00 pm 0 st 0.00 sm 0 inc 0.00
moves left 0, time_used 0.00, is_on_sec 0 run 0
black: pt 300.00 pm 0 st 0.00 sm 0 inc 0.00
moves left 0, time_used 0.00, is_on_sec 0 run 0
white ( 1): post
white ( 1): hard
white ( 1): force
white ( 1): edit
#
Ke8
Bf8
Pg6
Ph6
Pe5
Pd3
c
Kg8
Rh8
Ph7
Pf3
.
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8| | | | | k | b | K | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7| | | | | | | | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6| | | | | | | p | p |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5| | | | | p | | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4| | | | | | | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3| | | | p | | P | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2| | | | | | | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
1| | | | | | | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
a b c d e f g h
white ( 1): analyze
usetime = 10.43, mintime = 5.21 maxtime = 52.15 tl 298.00 ml 40
1 105 0 3 g6xh7+ Kg8xh7 [30]
1 164 0 4 g6g7 [30]
1 164 0 15 g6g7 [30]
2 447 0 19 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
2 471 0 39 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
2 471 0 105 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
3 479 0 206 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 [430]
3 479 0 259 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 [430]
4 305 6 2312 Bf8e7 f3f2 g6g7 f2f1=Q g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Be7f6+ Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [200]
4 -324 7 2635 g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 e5e6 f2f1=Q [-470]
4 -310 10 3781 Bf8g7 f3f2 Bg7xh8 h7xg6 e5e6 f2f1=Q [-470]
4 -189 10 3919 Bf8g7 f3f2 Bg7xh8 f2f1=Q g6xh7+ Kg8xh8 [-600]
4 -185 10 4351 Bf8c5 h7xg6 null Rh8xh6 [-170]
4 -40 10 4569 Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Rh8h7 [-70]
4 -40 13 5505 Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Rh8h7 [-70]
5 -52 13 5941 Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Kg8h7+ Ke8e7 Rh8g8 [-70]
5 -52 18 10397 Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Kg8h7+ Ke8e7 Rh8g8 [-70]
6 -12 20 13388 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6H Qf1xf6H e5xf6H [-200]
6 -12 21 13463 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
6 -12 26 20088 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
7 0 29 22979 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
7 0 43 40977 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
8 0 45 43307 g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
Whats happen? The devil? )

Don't think it's yace...
(the times will look strange, but this is on a slow machine, only getting 50% of a single CPU):white ( 1): setboard 4KBkr/7p/6PP/4P3/8/3P1p2/8/8 w - - 0 1
white ( 1): analyze
usetime = 9.97, mintime = 4.98 maxtime = 49.83 tl 598.00 ml 60
3 0.013 112 1t : g6xh7+ Kg8xh7 [30]
4 0.013 171 1t : g6g7 [30]
15 0.023 171 1. : g6g7 [30]
19 0.032 454 2++: g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
39 0.042 478 2t : g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
105 0.070 478 2. : g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 [430]
214 0.080 479 3t : g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 [430]
267 0.089 479 3. : g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 [430]
2301 0.106 305 4--: Bf8e7 f3f2 g6g7 f2f1=Q g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Be7f6+
Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [200]
2624 0.111 -324 4t : g6g7 f3f2 g7xh8=Q+ Kg8xh8 Bf8g7+ Kh8g8 e5e6
f2f1=Q [-470]
4054 0.165 -310 4t+: Bf8g7 f3f2 Bg7xh8 h7xg6 e5e6 f2f1=Q [-470]
4177 0.166 -189 4t : Bf8g7 f3f2 Bg7xh8 f2f1=Q g6xh7+ Kg8xh8 [-600]
4370 0.176 -185 4t+: Bf8c5 h7xg6 null Rh8xh6 [-170]
4588 0.190 -40 4t : Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Rh8h7 [-70]
5508 0.195 -40 4. : Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Rh8h7 [-70]
5944 0.200 -52 5t : Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Kg8h7+ Ke8e7 Rh8g8 [-70]
10337 0.235 -52 5. : Bf8c5 h7xg6 Bc5e3 Kg8h7+ Ke8e7 Rh8g8 [-70]
13408 0.247 -12 6t+: g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6H Qf1xf6H e5xf6H
[-200]
13483 0.248 -12 6t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
20081 0.293 -12 6. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
22972 0.303 0 7t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
40820 0.407 0 7. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
43161 0.418 0 8t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
75385 1.189 0 8. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
81338 1.212 0 9t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
138912 1.944 0 9. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
148629 1.982 0 10t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
267637 3.188 0 10. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 e5xf6 [-200]
274301 3.247 50 11++: g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=N null Nf1e3 g7xh8=Q+
Kg8xh8 null Ne3f1 null Kh8g8H [210]
300049 3.393 184 11t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8xe5+ d4xe5 Kg8h8 e5e6 Kh8g8 [100]
498497 5.734 184 11. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8xe5+ d4xe5 Kg8h8 e5e6 Kh8g8 [100]
523964 5.920 215 12t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8xe5+ d4xe5 Kg8h8 e5e6 Kh8g8 e6e7
Kg8h8 Ke8d7 [100]
948739 11.09 215 12. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8xe5+ d4xe5 Kg8h8 e5e6 Kh8g8 e6e7
Kg8h8 Ke8d7 [100]
949247 11.10 313 13++: g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=B Be7f6 Bf1h3 null Bh3d7+
Ke8xd7 Kg8f7 null Rh8c8 null [130]
970152 11.26 397 13t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 h7h5 e5e6 h5h4 e6e7 h4h3
Ke8d7 [200]
1887753 25.34 397 13. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 h7h5 e5e6 h5h4 e6e7 h4h3
Ke8d7 [200]
1889470 25.36 600 14++: g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 Kg7f7 e5e6+
Kf7g6 e6e7 h7h5 e7e8=Q+ Kg6g5 Qe8xh5+ Kg5xh5
[100]
1927887 25.61 880 14t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 Kg7g6 e5e6
Kg6f5 e6e7 Kf5e4 e7e8=Q+ Ke4xd4 [900]
4430532 55.72 880 14. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 Kg7g6 e5e6
Kg6f5 e6e7 Kf5e4 e7e8=Q+ Ke4xd4 [900]
4431541 55.76 974 15++: g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 h7h5 e5e6
h5h4 e6e7 h4h3 e7e8=Q h3h2 Qe8e7+ Kg7h6 [1000]
4496615 56.22 994 15t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 h7h5 e5e6
h5h4 e6e7 h4h3 e7e8=Q Kg7h6 [1000]
12132332 137.9 994 15. : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 Kg8xg7 Ke8d7 h7h5 e5e6
h5h4 e6e7 h4h3 e7e8=Q Kg7h6 [1000]
12331812 139.4 1018 16t : g6g7 f3f2 Bf8e7 f2f1=Q Be7f6 Qf1xf6 g7xh8=Q+
Qf6xh8 d3d4 Qh8g7 h6xg7 h7h5 e5e6 Kg8xg7 e6e7
h5h4 Ke8d7H Kg7h6H e7e8=QH Kh6g5H Qe8e7+H Kg5g4H
Qe7f6H [1000]


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[Dieter Buerssner]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 12:46:42:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Carlos Pesce at 28 July 2000 05:07:15:

Whats happen? The devil? )

No devil, it's a bug. With your detailled description, I could reproduce
and find it in minutes. It's fixed here.
So, with current version of Yace, don't edit a position, that has
a white king on e8 and a black rook on h8. Yace want'st to do a black
king side castling Sorry. Note that setboard FEN with the correct
castling rights doesn't have this problem. You can work around by setting
the king on d8 and do Ke8 in force mode.
About the ? moves in the book. You are correct, they don't work. Everything
else should work though. I am sorry again. In between, you can use ?! or
??, which both should work as advertized.
Sorry, and thanks again for you detailled and reproducable descriptions.
I think email of huge log parts should be sufficient.
Regards,
Dieter

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 12:56:10:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 12:46:42:

About the ? moves in the book. You are correct, they don't work. Everything
else should work though. I am sorry again. In between, you can use ?! or
??, which both should work as advertized.

What's wrong with the "?" comment?
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Dieter Buerssner]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 16:24:08:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 12:56:10:

What's wrong with the "?" comment?

As you know, the intention was, to make ? moves behave, as if they had
the minimum count of all available book moves. Due to a stupid typo,
they don't get the minimum count in Yace 0.22, but rather the count of
whichever move is the first in the list of all moves found in the book.
Probability is high, that this will be a rather large count, so ? really
behaves more like !, sorry.
People who want to use ? can contact me by email, and I will send a fixed
version, that also won't crash because of a white devil king on e8 after
position setup.
Regards,
Dieter

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 17:23:19:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 16:24:08:

As you know, the intention was, to make ? moves behave, as if they had
the minimum count of all available book moves. Due to a stupid typo,
they don't get the minimum count in Yace 0.22, but rather the count of
whichever move is the first in the list of all moves found in the book.
Probability is high, that this will be a rather large count, so ? really
behaves more like !, sorry.

Okay, now I see the problem. I was worried that something was wrong with the definition of "?" we talked about. Fortunately, I don't use that particular NAG in the books I've made, so I can wait for 0.23 ). Any plans for features to implement in the next version?
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Dieter Buerssner]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 21:44:28:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 17:23:19:

Any plans for features to implement in the next version?

No concrete plans.
I think, it would be nice to show the PV of a mate in Analyze mode,
when the mate is found in the engame tables. Better support for ChessAssistant.
Better eval parameters. I have some code, that let you edit the Move List at the root.
So you can i.e. say don't try this and that move, but all others. Sort of
poor man's n best moves mode. But this can unfortunately not work under Winboard.
It's your turn, to suggest a new bet to the same conditions
Regards,
Dieter

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 23:28:55:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Dieter Buerssner at 28 July 2000 21:44:28:

No concrete plans.
I think, it would be nice to show the PV of a mate in Analyze mode,
when the mate is found in the engame tables. Better support for ChessAssistant.
Better eval parameters. I have some code, that let you edit the Move List at the root.
So you can i.e. say don't try this and that move, but all others. Sort of
poor man's n best moves mode. But this can unfortunately not work under Winboard.
It's your turn, to suggest a new bet to the same conditions

Except for the olympics, there's not a lot of sport events in the immidiate future. But if you have any suggestions let me know.
Have you thought about better Chessbase GUI support? The timemanagement under the Fritz light GUI doesn't seem perfect. There's also the possibility of making a native engine or an own GUI.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Aaron]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Aaron at 29 July 2000 06:46:38:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Winboard Plus and Yace..mysteri.... geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 28 July 2000 23:28:55:

It's your turn, to suggest a new bet to the same conditions

Except for the olympics, there's not a lot of sport events in the immidiate >future. But if you have any suggestions let me know.
Have you thought about better Chessbase GUI support? The timemanagement under >the Fritz light GUI doesn't seem perfect. There's also the possibility of >making a native engine or an own GUI.

A native chessbase engine would be nice but that's up to the people at chessbase..
As for the sugguestion of Yace having it's own gui, I don't think that's a good idea..Winboard is good enough for me..
Yace currently has implemented tablebases,analysis mode, takeback and various tuning modes..
However what about some book learning?