Near to the Top

[Thomas Mayer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:
Hi,
because someone (Colin Frayn ?) asked here for a tourney for the engines which are near to the to top (Some nearer, some nearest... I will do one:
Engines so far:
Ant 3.42
Ant 4.16
Averno 0.18
Averno 0.24
Cilian 4.13
ColChess 4.4
ColChess 5.4
Crux 01.4 (I will give this one a try, I hope Laszlo give's me his okay...)
DChess 1.02
Dragon 3.11
ExChess 2.41
ExChess 3.11
Faile 0.6
Fortress 1.4b
Fortress 1.61
InmiChess 2.15
InmiChess 3.01
La Dame Blanche 2.0c
LambChop 7.1
Larsen VB 0.2
MFChess 1.0
Monik 1.9
Monik 2.0
Pierre 1.4
Pierre 1.7
Raffaela
Rival 1.5.03
Rival 1.8.16
Sjeng Vc
Skaki 1.19
SnailChess 1.03
SSEChess 2.00
TechnoChess 1.4x
TechnoChess 1.51
Tristram 3.36
Tristram 4.16
TSCP 1.42
TSCP 1.50
Why so many engines twice ? Because I want to see the progress, they have made, so I will use the oldest and the newest versions I have... (Yesterday I have counted... now 104 Winboard-engines (count all different versions) here...
If anyone thinks I should remove a engine, because it is to strong, please eMail me...
I am not shure if I let play all the engines, over 30 engines... --> Who is not included but should be in this group ? New Freyn and Noonian Chess, both has not adjustable hash-tables...
Rules:
I will play 3 tourney's:
One Lightning 2 0 or 2 1 per game, 10 Round Robin (Perhaps 2 1 because some engine get's really in trouble with time)
One Blitz 5 0 or 5 2 per game, 5 Round Robin (5 2 same reason as 2 1, I don't like the games which are won, but lost because of time)
One Active 25 0 or 25 5 per game, not shoure if I play 14 rounds Swiss or double Round Robin, depends on the time, i have...
I will play on my Pentium 233 MMX with 8mb hash each... Perhaps later I will switch to a Pentium 166 MMX which blocks so far my sauna and has nothing to do... (Well in future, I think it will play chess all day...
I am not sure if I should include one strong engine, perhaps only for the fast tourneys, because it can better show the weaknesses of the other programs (perhaps Nimzo 2000b - better would be a strong positional player but I don't have a Winboard-Shredder)
So, start your engines...
Greets, Thomas

[Thomas Mayer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 01:01:21:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:
Arasan 4.1 lasse ich wahrscheinlich auch mitspielen, die neueren Versionen halte ich für zu stark... Vielleicht kommt InmiChess 3.01 dafür raus oder LambChop, mal sehen...
Gruß, Thomas

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Dann Corbit at 16 February 2000 01:46:53:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:

Hi,
because someone (Colin Frayn ?) asked here for a tourney for the engines which are near to the to top (Some nearer, some nearest... I will do one:
Engines so far:
Ant 3.42
Ant 4.16
Averno 0.18
Averno 0.24
Cilian 4.13
ColChess 4.4
ColChess 5.4
Crux 01.4 (I will give this one a try, I hope Laszlo give's me his okay...)
DChess 1.02
Dragon 3.11
ExChess 2.41
ExChess 3.11
Faile 0.6
Fortress 1.4b
Fortress 1.61
InmiChess 2.15
InmiChess 3.01
La Dame Blanche 2.0c
LambChop 7.1
Larsen VB 0.2
MFChess 1.0
Monik 1.9
Monik 2.0
Pierre 1.4
Pierre 1.7
Raffaela
Rival 1.5.03
Rival 1.8.16
Sjeng Vc
Skaki 1.19
SnailChess 1.03
SSEChess 2.00
TechnoChess 1.4x
TechnoChess 1.51
Tristram 3.36
Tristram 4.16
TSCP 1.42
TSCP 1.50
Why so many engines twice ? Because I want to see the progress, they have made, so I will use the oldest and the newest versions I have... (Yesterday I have counted... now 104 Winboard-engines (count all different versions) here...
If anyone thinks I should remove a engine, because it is to strong, please eMail me...
I am not shure if I let play all the engines, over 30 engines... --> Who is not included but should be in this group ? New Freyn and Noonian Chess, both has not adjustable hash-tables...
Rules:
I will play 3 tourney's:
One Lightning 2 0 or 2 1 per game, 10 Round Robin (Perhaps 2 1 because some engine get's really in trouble with time)
One Blitz 5 0 or 5 2 per game, 5 Round Robin (5 2 same reason as 2 1, I don't like the games which are won, but lost because of time)
One Active 25 0 or 25 5 per game, not shoure if I play 14 rounds Swiss or double Round Robin, depends on the time, i have...
I will play on my Pentium 233 MMX with 8mb hash each... Perhaps later I will switch to a Pentium 166 MMX which blocks so far my sauna and has nothing to do... (Well in future, I think it will play chess all day...
I am not sure if I should include one strong engine, perhaps only for the fast tourneys, because it can better show the weaknesses of the other programs (perhaps Nimzo 2000b - better would be a strong positional player but I don't have a Winboard-Shredder)
So, start your engines...
Greets, Thomas

Amy? Pretty strong, so maybe will overpower.
Arasan? (About 2200, I think... Upper third, but would fit in OK.)
Bringer? Pretty strong...
Comet? Probably too strong for this bunch
Gnuchess 4.x? About the strength of Arasan or a tiny bit higher
Gnuchess 5.x? About the strength of Arasan or a tiny bit higher
Gromit? Pretty strong, so maybe will overpower.
This one is close to Crafty in strength. As is, I pick it as clear, dominating winner. (If the list is not modified)
Little Goliath Gold? Probably much too strong. About Crafty strength.
Olithink? Seems to fit in well with the bunch, but I have trouble with it.

Phalanx? Pretty strong -- close to Crafty.
The Crazy Bishop? Probably too strong also.
Zchess? (by Frank Zibi) will fit right in to the bunch.


My FTP site

[Thomas Mayer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 02:03:22:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Dann Corbit at 16 February 2000 01:46:53:
Hi Dann,
so far I will include Arasan 4.1 and Arasan 5.3
I will exclude LambChop 7.1, I think it the same way then you, too strong...
I am not sure with InMiChess 3.01...
Also I have, but will not include:
Amy, AnMon, Bionic Impact, Bringer, Comet, Crafty, Gromit, Little Goliath, Phalanx, SOS, The Crazy Bishop, Nimzo 2000b and ZChess, I think they are all to strong.
I will also not include GnuChess 4 and 5 (hm... well not sure, could fit or could be to strong)
Noonian 2.7 and Freyr couldn't play, because the Hashtables are not adjustable
Well and Olithink ? Have the same troubles than you, Frank and as I know everyone (But play's very well Loosers on ICC... handle puppylove... when it not crashed...
Greets, Thomas

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Dann Corbit at 16 February 2000 04:49:44:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 02:03:22:

Hi Dann,
I will also not include GnuChess 4 and 5 (hm... well not sure, could fit or could be to strong)
Noonian 2.7 and Freyr couldn't play, because the Hashtables are not adjustable

[snip]
I don't know anything about Noonian, but I have the source to Freyr. I am sure I could make the hash any size you like, or (perhaps) even make it adjustable.
It looks like a nice program.
[snip]

My FTP site

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Dann Corbit at 16 February 2000 05:02:16:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Dann Corbit at 16 February 2000 04:49:44:

Hi Dann,
I will also not include GnuChess 4 and 5 (hm... well not sure, could fit or could be to strong)
Noonian 2.7 and Freyr couldn't play, because the Hashtables are not adjustable

[snip]
I don't know anything about Noonian, but I have the source to Freyr. I am sure I could make the hash any size you like, or (perhaps) even make it adjustable.

It looks to be a lot harder than I thought to change the hash table size. I can't even find the darn thing. There are some tiny lists with 128 items in them and the like, but those can't be the hash tables.
[snip]


My FTP site

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 09:09:27:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:

Hi,
because someone (Colin Frayn ?) asked here for a tourney for the engines which are near to the to top (Some nearer, some nearest... I will do one:
Engines so far:
Ant 3.42
Ant 4.16
Averno 0.18
Averno 0.24
Cilian 4.13
ColChess 4.4
ColChess 5.4
Crux 01.4 (I will give this one a try, I hope Laszlo give's me his okay...)
DChess 1.02
Dragon 3.11
ExChess 2.41
ExChess 3.11
Faile 0.6
Fortress 1.4b
Fortress 1.61
InmiChess 2.15
InmiChess 3.01
La Dame Blanche 2.0c
LambChop 7.1
Larsen VB 0.2
MFChess 1.0
Monik 1.9
Monik 2.0
Pierre 1.4
Pierre 1.7
Raffaela
Rival 1.5.03
Rival 1.8.16
Sjeng Vc
Skaki 1.19
SnailChess 1.03
SSEChess 2.00
TechnoChess 1.4x
TechnoChess 1.51
Tristram 3.36
Tristram 4.16
TSCP 1.42
TSCP 1.50
Why so many engines twice ? Because I want to see the progress, they have made, so I will use the oldest and the newest versions I have... (Yesterday I have counted... now 104 Winboard-engines (count all different versions) here...
If anyone thinks I should remove a engine, because it is to strong, please eMail me...
I am not shure if I let play all the engines, over 30 engines... --> Who is not included but should be in this group ? New Freyn and Noonian Chess, both has not adjustable hash-tables...
Rules:
I will play 3 tourney's:
One Lightning 2 0 or 2 1 per game, 10 Round Robin (Perhaps 2 1 because some engine get's really in trouble with time)
One Blitz 5 0 or 5 2 per game, 5 Round Robin (5 2 same reason as 2 1, I don't like the games which are won, but lost because of time)
One Active 25 0 or 25 5 per game, not shoure if I play 14 rounds Swiss or double Round Robin, depends on the time, i have...
I will play on my Pentium 233 MMX with 8mb hash each... Perhaps later I will switch to a Pentium 166 MMX which blocks so far my sauna and has nothing to do... (Well in future, I think it will play chess all day...
I am not sure if I should include one strong engine, perhaps only for the fast tourneys, because it can better show the weaknesses of the other programs (perhaps Nimzo 2000b - better would be a strong positional player but I don't have a Winboard-Shredder)
So, start your engines...
Greets, Thomas

Fantastic, I hope for my webpage and you sent me later the pgn files.
See my message here to FreyR !
Noonian is not a problem, the programmer can compile a version with a little smaler hashtables. Please wrote an eMail to Charles. I hope Charles put a Noonian version with smaler hashtables on his webpage.
Good Thomas, and good when you wrote the results from round to round here. I have at the moment not the time to play tournaments but the results are very
intersting.
Regards
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 09:13:47:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 02:03:22:

Hi Dann,
so far I will include Arasan 4.1 and Arasan 5.3
I will exclude LambChop 7.1, I think it the same way then you, too strong...
I am not sure with InMiChess 3.01...
Also I have, but will not include:
Amy, AnMon, Bionic Impact, Bringer, Comet, Crafty, Gromit, Little Goliath, Phalanx, SOS, The Crazy Bishop, Nimzo 2000b and ZChess, I think they are all to strong.
I will also not include GnuChess 4 and 5 (hm... well not sure, could fit or could be to strong)
Noonian 2.7 and Freyr couldn't play, because the Hashtables are not adjustable
Well and Olithink ? Have the same troubles than you, Frank and as I know everyone (But play's very well Loosers on ICC... handle puppylove... when it not crashed...
Greets, Thomas

Arasan I think 2350 ELO (new version 5.3) !
LChop I think 2250 ELO and InmiChess 2300 ELO !
ZChess 1.20 = 2350 ELO I think !
The other are to strong for this tournament !
Bringer = 2325-2350 ELO I think !
I think GnuChess 4.14 is stronger = 2300 ELO ~
See the other message from myself !
OliThink is a problem, good program but illegal moves in a lot of games !
Regards
Frank
My ELO in games with longer time control on AMD K6-2 400 and K6-3 450 MHz !

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 09:16:30:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 01:01:21:

Arasan 4.1 lasse ich wahrscheinlich auch mitspielen, die neueren Versionen halte ich für zu stark... Vielleicht kommt InmiChess 3.01 dafür raus oder LambChop, mal sehen...
Gruß, Thomas

LambChop und InmiChess würde ich einsetzten. InmiChess wäre dann bei dem Feld wohl der Geheimfavorit. Allerdings interessant zu sehen (für mich), komme einfach nicht dazu mit InmiChess mehr zu spielen, mir kommt immer etwas dazwischen. Arasan halte ich für zu stark bei dem Turniere, vielleicht ist auch die neue InmiChess version besser als Arasan aber Arasan punktet bei mir immer recht gut ! Wie gesagt, mit InmiChess habe ich noch nicht viel gespielt.
Gruß
Frank

[WYx]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: WYx at 16 February 2000 10:22:20:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:

So, start your engines...
Greets, Thomas

Gute Idee!!
Gratuliere, und wunsche ich dich alles Gute!
Gruss
WYx

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 10:32:20:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: WYx at 16 February 2000 10:22:20:
Hallo,
sag mal, würde mich interessieren ...
Wie populär ist eigentlich Computerschach in Ungarn bzw. in den Vereinen. Gibt es dort viele Personen die sich mit Computerschach beschäftigen oder ist das dort eher so, daß sich wenige Personen mit Schachprogrammen beschäftigen.
Gibt es dort eine Zeitschrift die über Computerschach berichtet ?
Wie bekannt sind dort Amateurprogramme und ist darüber etwas zu lesen ?
Wenn es eine Zeitschrift gibt, kannst Du mir die Bezugsquelle mal nennen !
Gibt es dort dann auch eine Internetseite (zu einer Zeitschrift) ?
Im Grunde ist es doch so, daß auch die Ungarn Schach verrückt sind bzw. dort Schach einen sehr hohen Stellenwert hat.
Frage nur mal ...
Gruß
Frank

[WYx]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: WYx at 16 February 2000 11:06:02:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Computer Schach in Ungarn ?! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 10:32:20:

Hallo,
sag mal, würde mich interessieren ...
Wie populär ist eigentlich Computerschach in Ungarn bzw. in den Vereinen.
Gibt es dort eine Zeitschrift die über Computerschach berichtet ?
Wie bekannt sind dort Amateurprogramme und ist darüber etwas zu lesen ?

Ok
Absolut unpopular, leider.
Oder ich kenne nicth viele Leute? Ich weis es nicth.
Gibt es dort viele Personen die sich mit Computerschach beschäftigen oder ist das dort eher so, daß sich wenige Personen mit Schachprogrammen beschäftigen.
Ich wohne (leider) zu Weit aus Budapest, wo das Schachleben blumelt!
Keine Zeitschrift.
Fruher haben zwei oder drei SchachProgramme in Ungarn.
-Kovacs Attila hat damals (1980-84) KEMPELEN (Atari, C64) entwickelt,
kotech@mail.matav.hu
-Horvath Gyula -> PANDIX hat entwickelt,
aber Die Entwicklung alles Programmes beendet.
Wenn du mehr Informationen willst, frage mal Lindler Laszlo.
linchess@mail.interware.hu
Aber in Ungar gibst ein gutes SchachDateiBaseProgram,
das LEKO nutzt auch.
Es heisst Prochess.
http://www.elender.hu/~prochess/
Ungarn HauptSchachSeite:
www.sakk.hu
Sind genug fur Dich?
Gruss
WYx

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 11:47:03:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Computer Schach in Ungarn ?! geschrieben von:/posted by: WYx at 16 February 2000 11:06:02:

Hallo,
sag mal, würde mich interessieren ...
Wie populär ist eigentlich Computerschach in Ungarn bzw. in den Vereinen.
Gibt es dort eine Zeitschrift die über Computerschach berichtet ?
Wie bekannt sind dort Amateurprogramme und ist darüber etwas zu lesen ?

Ok
Absolut unpopular, leider.
Oder ich kenne nicth viele Leute? Ich weis es nicth.
Gibt es dort viele Personen die sich mit Computerschach beschäftigen oder ist das dort eher so, daß sich wenige Personen mit Schachprogrammen beschäftigen.
Ich wohne (leider) zu Weit aus Budapest, wo das Schachleben blumelt!
Keine Zeitschrift.
Fruher haben zwei oder drei SchachProgramme in Ungarn.
-Kovacs Attila hat damals (1980-84) KEMPELEN (Atari, C64) entwickelt,
kotech@mail.matav.hu
-Horvath Gyula -> PANDIX hat entwickelt,
aber Die Entwicklung alles Programmes beendet.
Wenn du mehr Informationen willst, frage mal Lindler Laszlo.
linchess@mail.interware.hu
Aber in Ungar gibst ein gutes SchachDateiBaseProgram,
das LEKO nutzt auch.
Es heisst Prochess.
http://www.elender.hu/~prochess/
Ungarn HauptSchachSeite:
www.sakk.hu
Sind genug fur Dich?
Gruss
WYx

Hi,
danke für die sehr interessanten Informationen. Ich werde mir die Seiten mal ansehen und die Links evtl. in meiner Link Rubrik aufnehmen. Pandix (Chess-Friend) hatte ich ganz vergessen und auf der Seite von ProChess war ich schonmal aber auch vergessen.
Gruß nach Ungarn
Frank

[Inmann Werner]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Inmann Werner at 16 February 2000 13:18:22:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:
I would be happy, if InmiChess 3.01 could participate.
Inmi in the last tourneys always had to play against the top-engines, and I would be interested, how it does against the "middle range". I do not think, Inmi would be the favorit.
The 2 0 and the 2 1 time control, Inmi will loose much on time. It is not good programmed for time controls under 4 0 or 3 2, cause it must come down to ply 6, to work properly.
The new Bringer version is very strong (Inmi has very little chance)
Lamb Chop and Arasan would be my favorits.
Greetings
Werner

[Inmann Werner]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Inmann Werner at 16 February 2000 13:25:16:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Inmann Werner at 16 February 2000 13:18:22:
I forgot Exchess and Ant.
So my tip would be:
1) Arasan
2) Ant
3) Exchess
4) LambChop
5) InmiChess?? (hope so)
Werner

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 16 February 2000 16:48:47:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 16 February 2000 00:46:04:
I decided to organize a similar tournament. I'm not incorporating that many engines, but these will participate:
Ant 4.16
Arasan 5.3
Cilian 4.13
Colchess 5.4 (It works, at least for now)
Dragon 3.11
EXChess 3.11 (not Corbit)
Fortress 1.61
GNUChess 5 (not Corbit due to too large hashtables)
Inmichess 3.01
KnightX 1.51
LambChop 7.10
LDBlanche 2.0c
Sjeng 5.0c
SSEChess 2.02II
These 14 engines will play 8 rounds at 40/5'. Perhaps with a playoff between the best 8.
The first round (Don't worry I'm not going to post all rounds )):
LDBlanche-Dragon: 0-1
LambChop-Cilian: 0-1
Fortress-KnightX: 0-1
Sjeng-ColChess: 1-0
EXchess-SSEChess: ½-½
Ant-GNUChess: 1-0
Inmichess-Arasan: 1-0
Best wishes...
Mogens

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 16 February 2000 17:09:21:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 16 February 2000 09:13:47:

Hi Dann,
so far I will include Arasan 4.1 and Arasan 5.3
I will exclude LambChop 7.1, I think it the same way then you, too strong...
I am not sure with InMiChess 3.01...
Also I have, but will not include:
Amy, AnMon, Bionic Impact, Bringer, Comet, Crafty, Gromit, Little Goliath, Phalanx, SOS, The Crazy Bishop, Nimzo 2000b and ZChess, I think they are all to strong.

Arasan I think 2350 ELO (new version 5.3) !
LChop I think 2250 ELO and InmiChess 2300 ELO !
ZChess 1.20 = 2350 ELO I think !
The other are to strong for this tournament !
Bringer = 2325-2350 ELO I think !

Frank , hast Du schon Zeit gefunden , die neue Bringer-Version zu testen ? Sie ist denke ich mittlerweile stärker , als Du vermutest ; hier als kleiner Appetithappen ein nettes Spielchen gegen Diepx ( Dual Pentium 500 irgendwas ) + ein netter Blitzsieg gegen Hossa ( zum Vergnügen ) ; nach den Resultaten auf ICC scheint Bringer zu Postmodernist aufgeschlossen zu haben ( immer so ca. 50 %) und wenn man mal die Überflieger-Winboardprogramme Crafty , LGG , Comet , Insomniac + AnMon und evtl. Gromit ( in längeren Partien ) abzieht ( vielleicht habe ich eins vergessen :=) ) zur erweiterten Spitzengruppe zu gehören :
Event "ICC 45 10"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2000.02.15"]
[Round "-"]
[White "DiepX"]
[Black "gambitmaster"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White resigns"]
[WhiteElo "2569"]
[BlackElo "2411"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez: closed, Flohr-Zaitsev system (Lenzerheide variation)"]
[ECO "C92"]
[NIC "RL.26"]
[Time "14:11:24"]
[TimeControl "2700+10"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.
c3 d6 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Ng5 Rf8 12. Nf3 Re8 13. Nbd2 Bf8 14. d5 Nb8
15. Nf1 h6 16. Ng3 Nbd7 17. Be3 c6 18. dxc6 Bxc6 19. Qc2 Qc7 20. Nd2 Nc5 21.
c4 Nxb3 22. axb3 Qb7 23. f3 Rac8 24. Qd3 Nd7 25. Nf5 Nc5 26. Qc2 Bd7 27. b4
Bxf5 28. bxc5 Be6 29. cxb5 Qxb5 30. Qc3 dxc5 31. Ra5 Qb7 32. Rea1 Rb8 33.
Rb1 c4 34. Qc2 Bb4 35. Rxe5 g5 36. Nxc4 f6 37. Rxe6 Rxe6 38. Rd1 Rc6 39. Kh1
a5 40. Qd3 Qf7 41. Nd2 Rd6 42. Qe2 Qd7 43. f4 Rd8 44. fxg5 fxg5 45. Qh5 Qe8
46. Qe2 Qc6 47. e5 Rd3 48. Qf2 Bxd2 49. Rxd2 Qc1+ 50. Kh2 Rxd2 51. Qf6 Qc7
52. Qe6+ Kh7 53. Qf5+ Kh8 54. Qe6 Qg7 55. Bxd2 Rxd2 56. Qc8+ Kh7 57. Qc3 Rd5
58. Qc2+ Kg8 59. Qc8+ Qf8 60. Qc2 Kg7 61. b3 Qf4+ 62. Kh1 Qf1+ 63. Kh2 Rd1
64. Qe4 Qf4+ 65. Qxf4 gxf4 66. h4 h5 67. e6 Rb1 68. e7 Kf7 69. b4 axb4 70.
g3 f3 71. e8=Q+ Kxe8 {White resigns} 0-1
[Event "ICS Match"]
[Site "unbekannt"]
[Date "2000.02.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Der Bringer"]
[Black "Hossa(C)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2397"]
[BlackElo "2266"]
1. d4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } d5 2. c4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } e6 3. Nc3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }Nf6 4. Nf3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Bb4 5. Bg5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
dxc4 6. e4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } c5 7. e5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
cxd4 8. Qa4+ { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Nc6 9. O-O-O { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
Bd7 10. Ne4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Be7 11. exf6 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
gxf6 12. Bh4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Rc8 13. Kb1 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
Na5 14. Qc2 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } e5 15. Nxd4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
exd4 16. Rxd4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Qb6 17. Rxd7 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
Kxd7 18. Be2 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } f5 19. Rd1+ {-0.58/7 0:00:31.2 }
Ke8 20. Nd6+ { 0.14/9 0:00:50.1 (PB: 0:00:05.0 ) } Bxd6 21. Qxf5 { 0.44/9 0:01:24.0 }
Qc5 22. Rd5 { 2.27/9 0:01:14.8 (PB: 0:00:12.8 ) } Qc7 23. Rxd6 { 4.24/9 0:00:53.6 (PB: 0:00:53.4 ) }
Nc6 24. Bh5 {-1.75/8 0:01:23.1 (PB: 0:01:22.9 ) } Ra8 25. Re6+ { 18.31/7
0:00:39.1 }
Kf8 26. Bg3 { 14.02/8 0:00:44.1 } Rd8 27. Bxc7 { Matt in 6/6 0:00:09.5 }
Rd1+ 28. Bxd1 { Matt in 5/7 0:02:25.3 (PB: 0:02:25.2 ) } h6
29. Bh5 { Matt in 4/4 0:00:51.9 (PB: 0:00:51.8 ) } Ne5 30. Bxe5 { Matt in 3/3 0:00:00.1 }
Rh7 31. Bd6+ { Matt in 3/1 0:00:00.1 } Kg8 32. Re8+ { Matt in 2/1 0:00:00.1 }
Kg7 33. Qxf7+ { Matt in 1/1 0:00:00.3 (PB: 0:00:00.1 ) }
{Hossa checkmated}1-0
Während frühere Bringer-Versionen besondere Stärken im Blitzspiel hatten , habe ich den Eindruck dass die aktuelle Version etwas längere Bedenkzeit braucht , um richtig auf Touren zu kommen . Der Spielstil ist meistens recht ruhig und die meisten Punkte werden in Stellugen mit geklärtem Zentrum erzielt .

[Colin Frayn]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Colin Frayn at 16 February 2000 17:53:35:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 16 February 2000 16:48:47:

I decided to organize a similar tournament. I'm not incorporating that many engines, but these will participate:
Ant 4.16
Arasan 5.3
Cilian 4.13
Colchess 5.4 (It works, at least for now)
Dragon 3.11
EXChess 3.11 (not Corbit)
Fortress 1.61
GNUChess 5 (not Corbit due to too large hashtables)
Inmichess 3.01
KnightX 1.51
LambChop 7.10
LDBlanche 2.0c
Sjeng 5.0c
SSEChess 2.02II

Hmmm.. I fear I may be a little out classed there
Not tried ColChess on games longer than 5 minute blitz yet. Well I suppose it might get a draw...
Are you using the large opening book (book_large.dat) ?
Cheers,
Colin

ColChess Homepage

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 16 February 2000 19:39:46:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Colin Frayn at 16 February 2000 17:53:35:

Hmmm.. I fear I may be a little out classed there
Not tried ColChess on games longer than 5 minute blitz yet. Well I suppose it might get a draw...
Are you using the large opening book (book_large.dat) ?

I've erased most of my weaker engines, which makes it a little difficult for ColChess.
Yes.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Colin Frayn]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Colin Frayn at 17 February 2000 00:05:56:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Near to the Top geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 16 February 2000 19:39:46:

Hmmm.. I fear I may be a little out classed there

I've erased most of my weaker engines, which makes it a little difficult for ColChess.

Well it'll be interesting. ColChess isn't at all bad for a brute force engine, but considering it doesn't use null move or search extensions, and I haven't even begun to add in futility pruning and razoring, it should get thrashed by all of these other engines who are at least 200-400 ELO higher. Oh, and I use 8*8 board notation because it's easier to read and understand, but unfortunately that gives me a slow move generation function :{
Still - thanks for trying it out - I'll be interested to see if it manages to get a draw....
Cheers,
Col

ColChess Homepage