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On Techno Chess

Postby Djordje Vidanovic » 09 Dec 1999, 17:43

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Djordje Vidanovic am 09. Dezember 1999 17:43:08:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Djordje Vidanovic
 

Re: On Techno Chess

Postby Alexandre Côme » 09 Dec 1999, 18:52

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Alexandre Côme am 09. Dezember 1999 18:52:34:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: On Techno Chess geschrieben von:/posted by: Djordje Vidanovic am 09. Dezember 1999 17:43:08:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Hello Djordje,
Nice games :-)
I have beaten Techno in blitz games too.
Here is a nice game:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "COME"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Côme Alexandre"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6 7. Nb5
Qb4+ 8. c3 Qxb2 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Rd1+ Kxc7 11. Qf4+ e5 12. Qxe5+ Kc6 13.
Be2 Qxe2+ 14. Nxe2 b6 15. O-O Nbd7 16. Qg3 Rb8 17. Nd4+ Kb7 18. Qf3+ Ka6
19. Bf4 Bc5 20. Kh1 Re8 21. Nb3 Bf8 22. Rfe1 Rxe1+ 23. Rxe1 Bb7 24. Qd3+ b5
25. a4 Be4 26. Rxe4 Nxe4 27. Qxd7 bxa4 28. Qxa4+ Kb6 29. Qa5+ Kb7 30. Qb5+
Kc8 31. Qxb8+ Kd7 32. Qc7+ Ke8 33. Nd4 Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nh3+ 35. gxh3 Ba3 36.
Nf5 f6 37. Nd6+ Bxd6 38. Bxd6 g6 39. Qe7#
1-0
I am not strong in blitz games so I have may be forgot some faster winning moves.
But nice game anyway.
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Alexandre Côme
 

Re: On Techno Chess

Postby Djordje Vidanovic » 10 Dec 1999, 20:42

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Djordje Vidanovic am 10. Dezember 1999 20:42:50:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: On Techno Chess geschrieben von:/posted by: Alexandre Côme am 09. Dezember 1999 18:52:34:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Hello Djordje,
Nice games :-)
I have beaten Techno in blitz games too.
Here is a nice game:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "COME"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Côme Alexandre"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6 7. Nb5
Qb4+ 8. c3 Qxb2 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Rd1+ Kxc7 11. Qf4+ e5 12. Qxe5+ Kc6 13.
Be2 Qxe2+ 14. Nxe2 b6 15. O-O Nbd7 16. Qg3 Rb8 17. Nd4+ Kb7 18. Qf3+ Ka6
19. Bf4 Bc5 20. Kh1 Re8 21. Nb3 Bf8 22. Rfe1 Rxe1+ 23. Rxe1 Bb7 24. Qd3+ b5
25. a4 Be4 26. Rxe4 Nxe4 27. Qxd7 bxa4 28. Qxa4+ Kb6 29. Qa5+ Kb7 30. Qb5+
Kc8 31. Qxb8+ Kd7 32. Qc7+ Ke8 33. Nd4 Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nh3+ 35. gxh3 Ba3 36.
Nf5 f6 37. Nd6+ Bxd6 38. Bxd6 g6 39. Qe7#
1-0
I am not strong in blitz games so I have may be forgot some faster winning moves.
But nice game anyway.
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Nice game, Alexandre. Similar in style to my games :)) Proves that Techno is weak regarding king safety: 8... Qxb2 is inexcusable by today's standards. Good to hear from you.
Djordje
Djordje Vidanovic
 

Re: On Techno Chess

Postby Christophe Jolly » 10 Dec 1999, 22:58

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Christophe Jolly am 10. Dezember 1999 22:58:34:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: On Techno Chess geschrieben von:/posted by: Djordje Vidanovic am 10. Dezember 1999 20:42:50:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Hello Djordje,
Nice games :-)
I have beaten Techno in blitz games too.
Here is a nice game:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "COME"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Côme Alexandre"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6 7. Nb5
Qb4+ 8. c3 Qxb2 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Rd1+ Kxc7 11. Qf4+ e5 12. Qxe5+ Kc6 13.
Be2 Qxe2+ 14. Nxe2 b6 15. O-O Nbd7 16. Qg3 Rb8 17. Nd4+ Kb7 18. Qf3+ Ka6
19. Bf4 Bc5 20. Kh1 Re8 21. Nb3 Bf8 22. Rfe1 Rxe1+ 23. Rxe1 Bb7 24. Qd3+ b5
25. a4 Be4 26. Rxe4 Nxe4 27. Qxd7 bxa4 28. Qxa4+ Kb6 29. Qa5+ Kb7 30. Qb5+
Kc8 31. Qxb8+ Kd7 32. Qc7+ Ke8 33. Nd4 Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nh3+ 35. gxh3 Ba3 36.
Nf5 f6 37. Nd6+ Bxd6 38. Bxd6 g6 39. Qe7#
1-0
I am not strong in blitz games so I have may be forgot some faster winning moves.
But nice game anyway.
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Nice game, Alexandre. Similar in style to my games :)) Proves that Techno is weak regarding king safety: 8... Qxb2 is inexcusable by today's standards. Good to hear from you.
Djordje
Christophe Jolly
 

Re: On Techno Chess

Postby Christophe Jolly » 10 Dec 1999, 23:00

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Christophe Jolly am 10. Dezember 1999 23:00:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: On Techno Chess geschrieben von:/posted by: Christophe Jolly am 10. Dezember 1999 22:58:34:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Hello Djordje,
Nice games :-)
I have beaten Techno in blitz games too.
Here is a nice game:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "COME"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Côme Alexandre"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6 7. Nb5
Qb4+ 8. c3 Qxb2 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Rd1+ Kxc7 11. Qf4+ e5 12. Qxe5+ Kc6 13.
Be2 Qxe2+ 14. Nxe2 b6 15. O-O Nbd7 16. Qg3 Rb8 17. Nd4+ Kb7 18. Qf3+ Ka6
19. Bf4 Bc5 20. Kh1 Re8 21. Nb3 Bf8 22. Rfe1 Rxe1+ 23. Rxe1 Bb7 24. Qd3+ b5
25. a4 Be4 26. Rxe4 Nxe4 27. Qxd7 bxa4 28. Qxa4+ Kb6 29. Qa5+ Kb7 30. Qb5+
Kc8 31. Qxb8+ Kd7 32. Qc7+ Ke8 33. Nd4 Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nh3+ 35. gxh3 Ba3 36.
Nf5 f6 37. Nd6+ Bxd6 38. Bxd6 g6 39. Qe7#
1-0
I am not strong in blitz games so I have may be forgot some faster winning moves.
But nice game anyway.
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Nice game, Alexandre. Similar in style to my games :)) Proves that Techno is weak regarding king safety: 8... Qxb2 is inexcusable by today's standards. Good to hear from you.
Djordje
Fritz 5.32 plays 8 .. Qxb2 even after several minutes of thinking.
This is not the bad move.
Fritz thinks 7 .. Qe5 then change for 7 .. Qd8.
Techno Chess plays Qd8 after 16s, too late for a blitz game.
Sorry for the empty message before.
Christophe
Christophe Jolly
 

Re: On Techno Chess

Postby Alexandre Côme » 11 Dec 1999, 07:17

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Alexandre Côme am 11. Dezember 1999 07:17:40:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: On Techno Chess geschrieben von:/posted by: Christophe Jolly am 10. Dezember 1999 23:00:31:
Hello there, Frank, Pete & Christian,
My impression based on about 30 blitz games (G/5) I played vs. Techno (positive score for me!!!) is that Techno is a nice program but much weaker than Frank thought at first. I'd assign not more than 2200 for it. Please take this with a pinch of salt, as I tried it only at blitz and not at longer time controls. (I also tested it against WB Diep 1.60 and Diep won 5-0 easily. Diep is a real "knowledge-based" program, while my impression is that Techno is "fast and dumb".) My criticism is also that Techno's king safety is pathetic. It simply does NOT see when you start attacking its king, let alone the build-up leading to the attack. Therefore I had a feeling that I should win EVERY single game vs Techno. Naturally I made lots of oversights so Techno was able to win from time to time. Two typical examples of my wins:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. h4 Be6 10. f3 c5 11. Qd2 Qb6 12. g4 Rfd8 13. h5 h6 14.
Bxh6 gxh6 15. Qxh6 Nh7 16. Qe3 Bg5 17. f4 Bf6 18. g5 Bd4 19. Qg3 d5 20. f5
Bd7 21. Rxd4 cxd4 22. Nxd5 Qa5 23. g6 Ng5 24. Bd3 Qxa2 25. Qxg5 Qa1+ 26.
Kd2 Qa5+ 27. Ke2 Qxd5 28. exd5 Re8+ 29. Kd2 Re3 30. Qf6 Rxd3+ 31. cxd3 Be6
32. fxe6 fxg6 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. hxg6#
Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DJORDJE _V"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "User"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 c5 5. d5 Qa5 6. Bd2 exf3 7. Nxf3 a6 8.
a4 Qb4 9. a5 Ne4 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Qxd2 c4 12. Be2 e6 13. Ra4 Qxb2 14. Rxc4
Qa1+ 15. Kf2 Qxh1 16. Rxc8+ Kd7 17. Rc4 Ke8 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Rc8+ Kf7 20.
Qf4+ Ke7 21. Nd5+ exd5 22. Qe5+ Kd7 23. Rc7+ Kd8 24. Rxb7 Bc5+ 25. Kg3
Qxh2+ 26. Kxh2 Bg1+ 27. Kxg1 Nd7 28. Qd6 Ke8 29. Qxd7+ Kf8 30. Qf7#
To be sure, I love having Techno and I enjoy playing it as it provokes my deepest "chess-killing instincts" by leaving its King so vulnerable :))
Best greetings to all,
Djordje
Hello Djordje,
Nice games :-)
I have beaten Techno in blitz games too.
Here is a nice game:
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "COME"]
[Date "1999.12.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Côme Alexandre"]
[Black "Techno_14x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Qxf3 Qxd4 6. Be3 Qd6 7. Nb5
Qb4+ 8. c3 Qxb2 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Rd1+ Kxc7 11. Qf4+ e5 12. Qxe5+ Kc6 13.
Be2 Qxe2+ 14. Nxe2 b6 15. O-O Nbd7 16. Qg3 Rb8 17. Nd4+ Kb7 18. Qf3+ Ka6
19. Bf4 Bc5 20. Kh1 Re8 21. Nb3 Bf8 22. Rfe1 Rxe1+ 23. Rxe1 Bb7 24. Qd3+ b5
25. a4 Be4 26. Rxe4 Nxe4 27. Qxd7 bxa4 28. Qxa4+ Kb6 29. Qa5+ Kb7 30. Qb5+
Kc8 31. Qxb8+ Kd7 32. Qc7+ Ke8 33. Nd4 Nf2+ 34. Kg1 Nh3+ 35. gxh3 Ba3 36.
Nf5 f6 37. Nd6+ Bxd6 38. Bxd6 g6 39. Qe7#
1-0
I am not strong in blitz games so I have may be forgot some faster winning moves.
But nice game anyway.
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Nice game, Alexandre. Similar in style to my games :)) Proves that Techno is weak regarding king safety: 8... Qxb2 is inexcusable by today's standards. Good to hear from you.
Djordje
Fritz 5.32 plays 8 .. Qxb2 even after several minutes of thinking.
This is not the bad move.
Fritz thinks 7 .. Qe5 then change for 7 .. Qd8.
Techno Chess plays Qd8 after 16s, too late for a blitz game.
Sorry for the empty message before.
Christophe
Hello Christophe,
You are right!
Qb4?? lost the game..
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme
Alexandre Côme
 


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