New WB engine "Bestia" available for download

[Lyapko George]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Lyapko George at 05 July 2000 11:34:09:
New WB engine Bestia v0.1b is available for download.
Previous one(0.1a) won my July 2000 League D with 16.5 from 18 points.
You could find it at my winboard page
Best regards,
George

[Aaron]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Aaron at 05 July 2000 11:55:56:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: New WB engine geschrieben von: / posted by: Lyapko George at 05 July 2000 11:34:09:

New WB engine Bestia v0.1b is available for download.
Previous one(0.1a) won my July 2000 League D with 16.5 from 18 points.
You could find it at my >winboard page
Best regards,
George

So this is the 57th winboard engine?? Welcome..At this rate, we will be crossing the 100 mark soon..
Even if you take away those that are not being actively developed, that's still quite a few..!

[Tim Mann]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Tim Mann at 06 July 2000 04:40:39:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New WB engine geschrieben von: / posted by: Aaron at 05 July 2000 11:55:56:

So this is the 57th winboard engine?? Welcome..At this rate, we will be crossing the 100 mark soon..

Hmm, I have only (!) 56 on my page. I wonder if I'm missing one. I could get to 57 by counting GNU Chess 4.0 and 5.0 separately, though. Actually GNU Chess 3.1+ should still work, so you could count that too and get 58....

[I'm not 'the mann' tim is]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: I'm not 'the mann' tim is, said: Dann Corbit at 06 July 2000 05:16:03:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New WB engine geschrieben von: / posted by: Tim Mann at 06 July 2000 04:40:39:

So this is the 57th winboard engine?? Welcome..At this rate, we will be crossing the 100 mark soon..

Hmm, I have only (!) 56 on my page. I wonder if I'm missing one. I could get to 57 by counting GNU Chess 4.0 and 5.0 separately, though. Actually GNU Chess 3.1+ should still work, so you could count that too and get 58....

We should start a countdown to 100.
Are we counting all the freely available ones only or also the privateware -- and what about the commercial ones?
Which brings up the second question:
When are the rest of the commercial vendors going to collect their senses and create Winboard versions of their engines?
Will the commercial vendors ever offer an interface with equal functionality to Winboard? That interface has been well defined for years. What's taking them so long to wake up and smell the coffee? I'm sure it's costing them a mint.



My FTP site

[Aaron]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Aaron at 06 July 2000 10:59:56:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New WB engine geschrieben von: / posted by: I'm not 'the mann' tim is, said: Dann Corbit at 06 July 2000 05:16:03:

So this is the 57th winboard engine?? Welcome..At this rate, we will be >>>crossing the 100 mark soon..

Hmm, I have only (!) 56 on my page. I wonder if I'm missing one. I could >>get to 57 by counting GNU Chess 4.0 and 5.0 separately, though. Actually GNU >>Chess 3.1+ should still work, so you could count that too and get 58....

We should start a countdown to 100.
Are we counting all the freely available ones only or also the privateware -- >and what about the commercial ones?

No idea. Frank's news ticker states that Mint is the 56th. SO Bestia should be the 57th.

By next year ?
I think we should leave out privateware. Since, there's no way we can know or verfy the exact number of privateware WB that is actually "available".
Commerical ones are more tricky though..I suppose they can be included.
And you also have the problem of counting different versions(Gormit2 vers Gormit3, GNUchess) and clones (Bionic vers Crafty) etc..

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Pete Galati at 06 July 2000 21:36:43:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: New WB engine geschrieben von: / posted by: I'm not 'the mann' tim is, said: Dann Corbit at 06 July 2000 05:16:03:

So this is the 57th winboard engine?? Welcome..At this rate, we will be crossing the 100 mark soon..

Hmm, I have only (!) 56 on my page. I wonder if I'm missing one. I could get to 57 by counting GNU Chess 4.0 and 5.0 separately, though. Actually GNU Chess 3.1+ should still work, so you could count that too and get 58....

We should start a countdown to 100.
Are we counting all the freely available ones only or also the privateware --
and what about the commercial ones?
Which brings up the second question:
When are the rest of the commercial vendors going to collect their senses and >create Winboard versions of their engines?
Will the commercial vendors ever offer an interface with equal functionality to >Winboard? That interface has been well defined for years. What's taking them >so long to wake up and smell the coffee? I'm sure it's costing them a mint.

Privateware _and_ comercialware don't count for much. Niether one exists if you ask me.
That's not going to happen IMO.
Another thing that won't happen. After all, in reality, Winboard is very passive. It does allows of things, but it does very little, it's just allowing everything to happen (the way I see it).
The killer Winboard replacement would be something that a company packaged in with their regular program and interface, but instead of their regular interface, this would do nothing else but run Winboard engines, and it could have a good looking gui, all of Winboard's features, _and_ tournament playing ability (not just matches), and all this could be put into a package that wasn't very memory hungry. And this could be done without having to generate additional .init or .ini files, Winboard doesn't need them.
Don't expect it to happen. As I recall, James Swafford was working on a Winboard like program, but he might have stopped working on it for all I know. See The Galahad Project link.
Pete


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