Problems with Dann Corbitt's crafty17.09 ?

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 14:26:34:
Hallo,
when I try to start the Crafty1-binary the engine is started normally ; but when I make a move crafty won't answer but instead give the following message and die :
CRAFTY1 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul CRAFTY1.EXE bei 0177:00415d05.
Register:
EAX=0002ffff CS=0177 EIP=00415d05 EFLGS=00010287
EBX=00744240 SS=017f ESP=0072f82c EBP=0000198f
ECX=c8944a70 DS=017f ESI=8a485c06 FS=18af
EDX=8a485c06 ES=017f EDI=004f600c GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 37 8b c1 33 c6 8b f2 33 77 04 0b c6 74 0e 8b
Stapelwerte:
00000030 00000000 0072f8cc 00744240 00000000 00744240 00000001 00000000 fff0bdc1 00000000 00488470 fff0bdc1 000f423f 00000002 fff0bdc1 0002ffff

I checked my settings and also redownloaded the binary ; the error seems to be 100 % reproducable.
It is no major problem for me as there was no major change to 17.8 anyway ; just curious if it is a thing only happening here .
My computer is a PIII500 running Win98SR2 .
greetings.

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 04 March 2000 14:36:22:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Problems with Dann Corbitt's crafty17.09 ? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 14:26:34:

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 15:42:13:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Problems with Dann Corbitt's crafty17.09 ? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 14:26:34:
Hallo ,
who can help ?
First crafty1 ( from Corbit's site ) itself ( in text mode ) works very well here ; also all commands out of Crafty.rc are used and well understood ( what I obviously should have tested before ).
Also the relevant section in winboard.ini is so simple that I can't think of a mistake there
\"Crafty1\" /fd=c:\\crafty
If this was the case the program wouldn't start anyway .
So it can't be the settings it seems .
I also tried the crafty1 (17.08-Version ) ; won't work ; then tried wcrafty17.6 from the official site which won't work either . Every time the same mistake ( see other post ) .
The other winboard programs work as usual and without problems.
So for me it is suddenly no minor problem anymore ) .
Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem or does anyone have an idea what is going on here ?
Thanks to everyone who has a helpful idea .
greetings.
pete

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 04 March 2000 16:33:43:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 15:42:13:

Hallo ,
who can help ?
First crafty1 ( from Corbit's site ) itself ( in text mode ) works very well here ; also all commands out of Crafty.rc are used and well understood ( what I obviously should have tested before ).
Also the relevant section in winboard.ini is so simple that I can't think of a mistake there
\"Crafty1\" /fd=c:\\crafty
If this was the case the program wouldn't start anyway .
So it can't be the settings it seems .
I also tried the crafty1 (17.08-Version ) ; won't work ; then tried wcrafty17.6 from the official site which won't work either . Every time the same mistake ( see other post ) .
The other winboard programs work as usual and without problems.
So for me it is suddenly no minor problem anymore ) .
Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem or does anyone have an idea what is going on here ?
Thanks to everyone who has a helpful idea .
greetings.
pete

Have you remembered to download the new books due to the change in bookformat from 16.xx to 17.xx? Otherwise post your Crafty.rc for closer inspection.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Pete Galati]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Pete Galati at 04 March 2000 16:42:30:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 15:42:13:

Hallo ,
who can help ?
First crafty1 ( from Corbit's site ) itself ( in text mode ) works very well here ; also all commands out of Crafty.rc are used and well understood ( what I obviously should have tested before ).
Also the relevant section in winboard.ini is so simple that I can't think of a mistake there
\"Crafty1\" /fd=c:\\crafty
If this was the case the program wouldn't start anyway .
So it can't be the settings it seems .
I also tried the crafty1 (17.08-Version ) ; won't work ; then tried wcrafty17.6 from the official site which won't work either . Every time the same mistake ( see other post ) .
The other winboard programs work as usual and without problems.
So for me it is suddenly no minor problem anymore ) .
Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem or does anyone have an idea what is going on here ?
Thanks to everyone who has a helpful idea .
greetings.
pete

I didn't have any problem with Dann's new download, I've been using it since yesterday to analyze games, and today since you mentioned having trouble, I tried it in Winboard too. I don't see a problem.
I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but when I download Crafty, whether it's from Dann's site or Dr. Hyatt's site, I always save it as "crafty.exe" and not whatever it's called on the ftp site, this saves me the trouble of changing anything on my computer when I switch to the new version.
So switching to new versions is never really noticed for me.
Pete

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 05 March 2000 00:47:20:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: Pete Galati at 04 March 2000 16:42:30:

I didn't have any problem with Dann's new download, I've been using it since yesterday to analyze games, and today since you mentioned having trouble, I tried it in Winboard too. I don't see a problem.
I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but when I download Crafty, whether it's from Dann's site or Dr. Hyatt's site, I always save it as "crafty.exe" and not whatever it's called on the ftp site, this saves me the trouble of changing anything on my computer when I switch to the new version.
So switching to new versions is never really noticed for me.
Pete

thanks for the tips . It is no problem of Dann's version ; it seems to be a problem with all crafties ( wcrafty17.6 , crafty 1 ( 17.08 + 17.09 ) on this ( fine new ) computer.
I should also add that it works very well for me on my other one ( which I tried this afternoon ) .
pete

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 05 March 2000 01:01:50:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 04 March 2000 16:33:43:

Have you remembered to download the new books due to the change in bookformat from 16.xx to 17.xx? Otherwise post your Crafty.rc for closer inspection.
Best wishes...
Mogens

My problem is that I see no point to start for finding the error .
It is obviously no error in my Crafty.rc as I also tested it after I moved it away with exactly the same result ( also it wouldn't work nicely in text mode then )
I use the new books ( else I would get an error message in crafty-logfiles anyway )
It is also no error in winboard.ini ( verified by starting it directly with C:\Programme\winboard -fcp Crafty1 -fd c:\crafty )
There is absolutely nothing odd in the crafty-logfiles as far as I can understand it ( it simply silently dies , after it got and understood the 1st move )
There is nothing strange in the winboard-debug File ( only the well-known first engine died unexpectedly ) .
So it is seems to me it is something strange only happening on this computer ; but this is also strange as I have played some 100 games with various winboard progs on it without problems ; also every other application works fine .
Well ; bad chances for crafty on my computer it seems ; if noone else has the same problems bad chance to get it fixed .
Thanks for your tips ; and if anyone else has an idea what I could do I would thank you very much ( I might try the crafty-mailinglist on Monday ?! )
pete

[chessfun]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 08:09:29:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 05 March 2000 01:01:50:

Hi Pete,
I only myself tonight set up winboard and 25 engines to my
second PC.
I downloaded two of Dans compiles. Crafty 17.09 and Phalanxf.
Phalanx f I could not get to work at all, so ended up using the
authors original compile.
I have little winboard experience only before having run GNU Crafty
and Comet.
But I went to Franks http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach ... load-q.htm and downloaded his winboard config.zip and it helped greatly.
Note: If you want to keep your original winboard.ini to back it up.
I just changed the name of my initial directories to his...programmes
and then changed the name of the actual file in the winboard.ini
Example:
First program
\"Crafty_1708\" /fd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
Second program
\"Crafty_1708\" /sd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
From "Crafty_1709\" to "Crafty1\"
I did this with about 25 engines and as I said only one failure was
Phalanx, phalanxf in this case.
BTW anyone else reading this, the Nimzo winboard program is this
free ?? where can it be obtained since I don't not see it at Nimzo's
homepage either for sale or free.
Hope some of this may help.
Thanks.





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[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 05 March 2000 10:22:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 08:09:29:

Hi Pete,
I only myself tonight set up winboard and 25 engines to my
second PC.
I downloaded two of Dans compiles. Crafty 17.09 and Phalanxf.
Phalanx f I could not get to work at all, so ended up using the
authors original compile.
I have little winboard experience only before having run GNU Crafty
and Comet.
But I went to Franks http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach ... load-q.htm and downloaded his winboard config.zip and it helped greatly.
Note: If you want to keep your original winboard.ini to back it up.
I just changed the name of my initial directories to his...programmes
and then changed the name of the actual file in the winboard.ini
Example:
First program
\"Crafty_1708\" /fd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
Second program
\"Crafty_1708\" /sd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
From "Crafty_1709\" to "Crafty1\"
I did this with about 25 engines and as I said only one failure was
Phalanx, phalanxf in this case.
BTW anyone else reading this, the Nimzo winboard program is this
free ?? where can it be obtained since I don't not see it at Nimzo's
homepage either for sale or free.
Hope some of this helps.

Same here. I managed to use Phalanxf for a couple of weeks before it keeled over.
If you want to use the english/US term insterad of the german one for the folder containing programs try
\"Crafty_1709\" /fd=\"c:\\Program Files\\Winboard\\Crafty\"
You just have to remember the \" at each end of dirpath.
No, unfortunately it's not free.
Hopefully.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[pete]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: pete at 05 March 2000 11:36:30:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Problems with Dann Corbitt's crafty17.09 ? geschrieben von:/posted by: pete at 04 March 2000 14:26:34:
Thanks for the help .
It turned out that the book file was somehow corrupted ; this wasn't noted by crafty when it was started , and not if having to answer a first move in text mode ( that's why it could play in text mode with black ) , but only when it got a "go" or a "move" right from the start .
pete

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 12:21:31:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Problems with crafty under winboard on _my_ computer ; Help ?? geschrieben von:/posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 08:09:29:

Hi Pete,
I only myself tonight set up winboard and 25 engines to my
second PC.
I downloaded two of Dans compiles. Crafty 17.09 and Phalanxf.
Phalanx f I could not get to work at all, so ended up using the
authors original compile.
I have little winboard experience only before having run GNU Crafty
and Comet.
But I went to Franks http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach ... load-q.htm and downloaded his winboard config.zip and it helped greatly.
Note: If you want to keep your original winboard.ini to back it up.
I just changed the name of my initial directories to his...programmes
and then changed the name of the actual file in the winboard.ini
Example:
First program
\"Crafty_1708\" /fd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
Second program
\"Crafty_1708\" /sd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
From "Crafty_1709\" to "Crafty1\"
I did this with about 25 engines and as I said only one failure was
Phalanx, phalanxf in this case.
BTW anyone else reading this, the Nimzo winboard program is this
free ?? where can it be obtained since I don't not see it at Nimzo's
homepage either for sale or free.
Hope some of this may help.
Thanks.

Nice to hear
I rename all exe files. I think it is better when I can see which programs play an engine - engine match in the WinBoard status line !
I can see
Crafty1 - Engine
For Crafty and Gromit !
Now I can see
Crafty_1709 - Gromit_220 !
This is better for me
For the Corbit version the parameter -o-
Works fine !
o= Oscar
not Zero
See my detail page to Phalanx, I have for all engines a detail page, but the pages are in german !
Mogens wrote about Nimzo, yes not free !
The "WinBoard Engine" is included in the MCSystem 2000 packet !
The detail page for Nimzo stand in the Phase X project pages !
25 engines ?
A lot of work !
Regards
Frank

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 05 March 2000 13:11:17:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit and WB Nimzo 2000 or 2000b ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 12:21:31:

For the Corbit version the parameter -o-
Works fine !
o= Oscar
not Zero
See my detail page to Phalanx, I have for all engines a detail page, but the pages are in german !

I changed my winboard.ini, but forgot the -o-. How stupid can you get. Nice reminder Frank )
Best wishes...
Mogens

[chessfun]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 19:44:02:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit and WB Nimzo 2000 or 2000b ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 12:21:31:

Hi Pete,
I only myself tonight set up winboard and 25 engines to my
second PC.
I downloaded two of Dans compiles. Crafty 17.09 and Phalanxf.
Phalanx f I could not get to work at all, so ended up using the
authors original compile.
I have little winboard experience only before having run GNU Crafty
and Comet.
But I went to Franks http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach ... load-q.htm and downloaded his winboard config.zip and it helped greatly.
Note: If you want to keep your original winboard.ini to back it up.
I just changed the name of my initial directories to his...programmes
and then changed the name of the actual file in the winboard.ini
Example:
First program
\"Crafty_1708\" /fd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
Second program
\"Crafty_1708\" /sd=c:\\Programme\\Winboard\\Crafty
From "Crafty_1709\" to "Crafty1\"
I did this with about 25 engines and as I said only one failure was
Phalanx, phalanxf in this case.
BTW anyone else reading this, the Nimzo winboard program is this
free ?? where can it be obtained since I don't not see it at Nimzo's
homepage either for sale or free.
Hope some of this may help.
Thanks.

Nice to hear
I rename all exe files. I think it is better when I can see which programs play an engine - engine match in the WinBoard status line !
I can see
Crafty1 - Engine
For Crafty and Gromit !
Now I can see
Crafty_1709 - Gromit_220 !
This is better for me
For the Corbit version the parameter -o-
Works fine !
o= Oscar
not Zero
See my detail page to Phalanx, I have for all engines a detail page, but the pages are in german !
Mogens wrote about Nimzo, yes not free !
The "WinBoard Engine" is included in the MCSystem 2000 packet !
The detail page for Nimzo stand in the Phase X project pages !
25 engines ?
A lot of work !
Regards
Frank

This is smart !! I will also follow this suggestion.


I'm sorry....but where does this -o- go in the comand line?


Read it as best I could, but saw no reference to the -o-.


Took me about 3 hours. Now I must try to get them all to work
with F6 interface also. I have your init.zip so wish me luck !!.
Thanks.





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[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 05 March 2000 19:58:15:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 19:44:02:

I'm sorry....but where does this -o- go in the comand line?

Practically anywhere, eg. \"Phalanx_22c -l+ -t16384 -r500 -o-\"
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 20:22:19:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: chessfun at 05 March 2000 19:44:02:
Hi,

This is smart !! I will also follow this suggestion.
Read it as best I could, but saw no reference to the -o-.
Took me about 3 hours. Now I must try to get them all to work
with F6 interface also. I have your init.zip so wish me luck !!.
Thanks.

Yes, I think it`s better !
And better for the Chess-Base GUIs !
You can see in the engine menue the version
Here I rename in ...
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506.eng
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\WB_AnMon_506.exe
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\WB_AnMon_506.init
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\AnMon.ini
And when I play a tournament under Fritz 6a I look in the table to WB_x and I am happy when the WB_x engines stand in the list in a good position !
Sorry, you have right, I delete the message on the day who the version 22 from Dusan Dobes is available !
\"Phalanx_22_Co -t32768 -r900 -o-\" /fd=c:\\Chess\\WinBoard\\Phalanx
\"Phalanx_22_Co -t32768 -r900 -o-\" /sd=c:\\Chess\\WinBoard\\Phalanx
In my WinBoard.ini !
I play without the learn option -l+
Try the parameter -o- !
A user wrote these in the WinBoard forum. I can not play with the Corbit tweaked version 22 without -o- !
I edit the files for all "WinBoard Engines", but you can not play under Chess-Base GUIs with all programs.
Example: SOS, LambChop !
The new Dragon 3.11-2 can play under Chess-Base GUIs, but a lot of user have problems with Dragon 3.11-2 ! I can not see the problems !
Regards
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 20:25:54:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 05 March 2000 19:58:15:

I'm sorry....but where does this -o- go in the comand line?

Practically anywhere, eg. \"Phalanx_22c -l+ -t16384 -r500 -o-\"
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
sorry, I see not your message !
The same time !
OK you wrote with -l+ I wrote without -l+ !
I think you have right -l+ is better.
In the CSS forum a user made an test with -l+ and without -l+
and wrote -l+ is better !
I delete the learn files from all engines when the match over !
Regards
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 20:30:26:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit and WB Nimzo 2000 or 2000b ! geschrieben von:/posted by: Mogens Larsen at 05 March 2000 13:11:17:

For the Corbit version the parameter -o-
Works fine !
o= Oscar
not Zero
See my detail page to Phalanx, I have for all engines a detail page, but the pages are in german !

I changed my winboard.ini, but forgot the -o-. How stupid can you get. Nice reminder Frank )
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
yes, for months 2 user wrote me that -0- not run !
0 = Zero
The little problems !
I tryed Dragon under Chess Assistant and Dragon will not run. I search 2 hours my mistake and see that I wrote not xboard, I wrote xbaord )
Regards
Frank

[Tim Archer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Tim Archer at 06 March 2000 01:26:49:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 20:25:54:

I'm sorry....but where does this -o- go in the comand line?

Practically anywhere, eg. \"Phalanx_22c -l+ -t16384 -r500 -o-\"
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
sorry, I see not your message !
The same time !
OK you wrote with -l+ I wrote without -l+ !
I think you have right -l+ is better.
In the CSS forum a user made an test with -l+ and without -l+
and wrote -l+ is better !
I delete the learn files from all engines when the match over !
Regards
Frank

Hello Frank,
In phalanx 22 the learning option is selected by defaut so -l+ and nothing is
the same !!
Tim Archer

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 06 March 2000 01:33:52:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: Tim Archer at 06 March 2000 01:26:49:

I'm sorry....but where does this -o- go in the comand line?

Practically anywhere, eg. \"Phalanx_22c -l+ -t16384 -r500 -o-\"
Best wishes...
Mogens

Hi Mogens,
sorry, I see not your message !
The same time !
OK you wrote with -l+ I wrote without -l+ !
I think you have right -l+ is better.
In the CSS forum a user made an test with -l+ and without -l+
and wrote -l+ is better !
I delete the learn files from all engines when the match over !
Regards
Frank

Hello Frank,
In phalanx 22 the learning option is selected by defaut so -l+ and nothing is
the same !!
Tim Archer

Then -l- might be an option ;o).
Best wishes...
Mogens

[chessfun]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: chessfun at 06 March 2000 02:36:29:
Als Antwort auf:/As an answer to: Re: Phalanx 22 Corbit geschrieben von:/posted by: Frank Quisinsky at 05 March 2000 20:22:19:

Hi,

This is smart !! I will also follow this suggestion.
Read it as best I could, but saw no reference to the -o-.
Took me about 3 hours. Now I must try to get them all to work
with F6 interface also. I have your init.zip so wish me luck !!.
Thanks.

Yes, I think it`s better !
And better for the Chess-Base GUIs !
You can see in the engine menue the version
Here I rename in ...
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506.eng
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\WB_AnMon_506.exe
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\WB_AnMon_506.init
c:\Chess\CBase\Engines\WB_AnMon_506\AnMon.ini
And when I play a tournament under Fritz 6a I look in the table to WB_x and I am happy when the WB_x engines stand in the list in a good position !
Sorry, you have right, I delete the message on the day who the version 22 from Dusan Dobes is available !
\"Phalanx_22_Co -t32768 -r900 -o-\" /fd=c:\\Chess\\WinBoard\\Phalanx
\"Phalanx_22_Co -t32768 -r900 -o-\" /sd=c:\\Chess\\WinBoard\\Phalanx
In my WinBoard.ini !
I play without the learn option -l+
Try the parameter -o- !
A user wrote these in the WinBoard forum. I can not play with the Corbit tweaked version 22 without -o- !
I edit the files for all "WinBoard Engines", but you can not play under Chess-Base GUIs with all programs.
Example: SOS, LambChop !
The new Dragon 3.11-2 can play under Chess-Base GUIs, but a lot of user have problems with Dragon 3.11-2 ! I can not see the problems !
Regards
Frank

This works for my Phalanxf version.....excellent TY


I did notice today a few of them would not run.
Shame that SoS is a good little blitz program against me at least,
very aggressive......I like it a lot.
Thanks.




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